tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post6288168215540542026..comments2023-04-25T23:02:43.964-07:00Comments on Outside the Box: Paradigm ShiftDr. Silvia C. Pastorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08005059889094847451noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-24340004755382214962010-03-25T11:01:16.136-07:002010-03-25T11:01:16.136-07:00In addition to our role as facilitators of the pro...In addition to our role as facilitators of the problem-solving method, it is also crucial that we become advocates for change in the school psychologists' position. Many districts, administrators, and school psychologists were schooled, trained, and worked in the system prior to the introduction of IDEA and the implementation of IEP's. While we can't change the entire system by ourselves, it is important to push for changes so that we can better serve the students, teachers, and parents who greatly depend on us.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10041704951450389434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-82951217932567095562010-03-25T05:41:24.388-07:002010-03-25T05:41:24.388-07:00Anel, Amanda, and Denise you are correct. All indi...Anel, Amanda, and Denise you are correct. All individuals who are part of the school need to know what each other do and are responsible for so they can utilise each otehr's talents effectively and not waste time asking the wrong person.<br /><br />This also seems to be coming up more and more with budget cuts where people are passing blame because they are not really aware of what each other does. <br /><br />In my district they are cutting about 11 teachers and one said in the conference room the other day they should cut the school psych becuase all he does is sit in his office and everyone already has an IEP written so he has nothing to do.<br /><br />Clearly this is an example of not knowing each others roles.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04234039477982519174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-19925880673207438152010-03-25T05:37:43.206-07:002010-03-25T05:37:43.206-07:00Mark, I think you are correct about only teaching ...Mark, I think you are correct about only teaching to pass the test and not about real learning. Instead of doing hands on projects or writing papers, students seem to be taking practice test after practice test and not really learning skills.<br /><br />My little brother is a junior in high school and is taking AP English. Every week they spend one class period taking a sample AP test where they have to read a passage and answer questions. This takes up 1/5 of their total class time so they are not learning new concepts rather practicing taking a test. Furthermore, the teacher does not understand how the test was normed so that AP students still only get about a 60% which would give them a 4 on the AP test which is really good. However, the teacher is missing this concept and everytime gives the kids a 60% (failing) grade.<br /><br />Something has really been lost in translation.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04234039477982519174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-69822020584415990912010-03-23T12:51:03.073-07:002010-03-23T12:51:03.073-07:00I agree with Anel and Amanda.... If everyone is on...I agree with Anel and Amanda.... If everyone is on board and knowledgeable about what each member of the team is supposed to contribute it may turn out to be a more collaborate and understanding experience.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07608608872515899149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-55938197261742835332010-03-22T21:27:36.538-07:002010-03-22T21:27:36.538-07:00I agree with Amanda in that our role is definitely...I agree with Amanda in that our role is definitely one in which we will be expected to lead meetings, and help the team see how all the components fit together. In addition to respect for other members of the IEP, it is important that each person if fully aware of everyone else's roles. I don't mean in a general sense, but to really know the details. This will help foster a greater sense of appreciation for what each member is contributing.Anelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173446951016202660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-73039309320061091302010-03-22T17:04:20.394-07:002010-03-22T17:04:20.394-07:00As a school psychologist I think my role in relati...As a school psychologist I think my role in relation to the other IEP team members to be the foundation. I feel like we will lay the ground work, lead the meetings, and organize everything. But without the rest of the pieces (teachers, parents, etc.) the plan will just crumble. I think openness is key in really finding out what is best for the student. If you hold back from really saying how you feel to the other members, you could be doing them a huge disservice. But like Danielle said, it has to be done respectfully.<br /><br />My previous understanding about implementing problem-solving approaches was that it had to be evidence-based in order for anything to be used in school. In a previous project, I interviewed two teachers and asked their opinion on this. They both stated that in their classrooms, they feel they know what is best for their children, and if they want to try an approach they think will work even if there's no evidence for it yet, they should be able to.AmandaBishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09235082814104448945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-33596578611935221412010-03-22T15:30:13.956-07:002010-03-22T15:30:13.956-07:00Mark brings up a good point the politics has perme...Mark brings up a good point the politics has permeated the classroom so that teachers are more concerned about passing the standardized tests than teaching for the love of learning. This might be one area, if it can be helped, that might need large scale intervention from organizations such as NASP. We might have to fight to change this policy first, so teachers are more at ease and more open to learning special education strategies.Alarysnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-37297318662548968752010-03-22T14:27:44.629-07:002010-03-22T14:27:44.629-07:00It would seem just like we discussed in class that...It would seem just like we discussed in class that educators should have a differentiated instruction approach regardless of who is in the class. We are so focused on teaching to pass state tests instead of integrating knowledge and making it interesting. I feel that if you are just trying to pass are you really learning and enjoying the learning process.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09388382248079133680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-79567494570868632072010-03-22T14:18:27.723-07:002010-03-22T14:18:27.723-07:00In addition I think all teachers should learn abou...In addition I think all teachers should learn about special education beucase I don't think there is a teacher out there who has not worked with a special ed student. I find this to be especially true at the high school level. I beleive educating all individuals invovled in education in special ed would make collaboration easier and more effective.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04234039477982519174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-73806288619794475972010-03-22T09:55:24.286-07:002010-03-22T09:55:24.286-07:00As we said in class, it seems only logical that te...As we said in class, it seems only logical that teachers should have a requirement for taking special education courses, this way not only will they stop sending every single child to the school psychologist but it might also be useful in early intervention strategies.Danielle Allegranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-41457066141028822272010-03-22T03:42:03.843-07:002010-03-22T03:42:03.843-07:00Since no student can be classified by only one ass...Since no student can be classified by only one assessment, and for students' needs to be met, as school psychologists there is no way we can "do it alone." Collaboration is an important aspect of our job, and if this is missing, then we can as well forget about having the child's best interests at heart. As Danielle said, respect is paramount to get anything done.Alaafianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-1890672518426832972010-03-21T18:08:15.147-07:002010-03-21T18:08:15.147-07:00I believe that our roles will be determined by the...I believe that our roles will be determined by the school districts in which we work. Some districts allow you to have freedom and others dictate to you what should be done. We can only be absolutely sure of one thing--we will administer cognitive assessments. We are the only professionals in the school system certified to administer these tests. <br /><br />As far as working with the IEP team, I believe the most important detail is RESPECT. We must respect the other members in the meeting and always remain professional.Danielle Muhammadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15362995739563772516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-27606163138003305482010-03-21T16:33:34.666-07:002010-03-21T16:33:34.666-07:00Because RTI is a strategy that involves every stud...Because RTI is a strategy that involves every student I think it should begin to be taught to teachers at the undergrad level. We can't expect teachers to love the idea if they have no training. <br /><br />In addition, perhaps during inservices we can take it on ourselves to propose teaching it to students sicne we are being educated on it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04234039477982519174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-5435515875590763482010-03-21T12:51:00.263-07:002010-03-21T12:51:00.263-07:00If all students can benefit from differentiated in...If all students can benefit from differentiated instruction and prevention services like RTI, this can be a school psychologists opportunity to become more integrated in the school environment and define our role among teachers and administrators.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09388382248079133680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-79891288461483088302010-03-21T07:18:32.784-07:002010-03-21T07:18:32.784-07:00I agree with you, Ana. All teachers would most ce...I agree with you, Ana. All teachers would most certainly benefit from special education training that is more in-depth than just an occasional professional development workshop given by the district. By making teachers aware of the intellectual diversity within the classroom, we are giving educators differentiated instructional tools and approaches which can be utilized in an effort to assist the child struggling with academic or behavioral issues before special education evaluation is sought.Prattima Kaulessarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01227824315316560514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-91778946997855063482010-03-21T07:17:03.315-07:002010-03-21T07:17:03.315-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Prattima Kaulessarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01227824315316560514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-46325717875235042342010-03-20T20:18:42.587-07:002010-03-20T20:18:42.587-07:00Teachers certainly depend on school psychologists ...Teachers certainly depend on school psychologists for assessments and diagnostic issues. They view school psychologists this way because they have no training or background with working with children with special needs. I am not sure how to make this approach accepted in schools but I do believe that teachers and other administrators need to have some training in special education and/or related services. Hopefully, with training they can assist school psychologists, instead of solely depending on them.Anahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07703021369122329881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342183583593135010.post-45547735181539706242010-03-20T15:41:55.223-07:002010-03-20T15:41:55.223-07:00I think that it would be very hard for us to make ...I think that it would be very hard for us to make people (teachers)except our practices or beliefs. However to do so would be helpful. <br /><br />I think a good practice that is slowly being put into place is RTI which is helping kids earlier but we can not force teachers and others to get on board. This is more of an administrator job but we can do all we can to help by speeking highly of it, showing how it helps for early intervention and so forth.<br /><br />I am not sure if that answers your questions but I blieve RTI is a startUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04234039477982519174noreply@blogger.com